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Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



mashed in maryland 12:12 Sun Jul 21
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
What, to blindly accept anything the authorities put out and ridicule anyone who questions it?

Bungo 12:06 Sun Jul 21
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
mashed in maryland 11:23 Sun Jul 21

No, this is the right way of looking at things.

mashed in maryland 11:31 Sun Jul 21
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
yngwies Cat 3:17 Sun Jul 21

The 20th century was insane if you think about it. Unbelievable amount of progress but also by a distance the most violent and destructive.

Try explaining to your great grandparents alive in 1899 what the world would be like in 1999 and everything happening in between. There's a chance they'd think the 1940s would be too far fetched.

mashed in maryland 11:23 Sun Jul 21
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
"I sometimes wonder if there will EVER be any significant event such as Apollo or 911 etc, that the conspiracy theorists WON'T have a contrary theory about"

Wrong way of looking at things.

A better question to ask would be will politicians and the press etc. ever be trustworthy enough for people to not be so sceptical.

Bungo 9:44 Sun Jul 21
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
I sometimes wonder if there will EVER be any significant event such as Apollo or 911 etc, that the conspiracy theorists WON'T have a contrary theory about.

Just once it would be funny if they all nodded their heads and went, 'yup, that one did actually happen'.

Mike Oxsaw 6:13 Sun Jul 21
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
mashed in maryland 10:08 Sat Jul 20

'tis true.

The hardware on the Pioneers is very crude by today's standards, but even so, the software on it has been upgraded many times. If integrated circuits were used at all, I suspect that the number of components on them was in the dozens/low hundreds, nowhere near the number on those on the chip in the phone/computer people are using to read this.

Certainly can't take it down PC World for repair.

I'm almost certain that the aim of the two was to just fly by/photograph Jupiter, with anything else being a bonus. Points are available to anyone who wishes to quote Wiki and "prove" me wrong.

Both rumoured to be travelling faster than a Ray Stewart penalty these days.

yngwies Cat 3:17 Sun Jul 21
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
66 Years between man's first flight and then Moon landing.

Nuts

Northern Sold 3:07 Sun Jul 21
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
6 parter Chasing the Moon is some TV.... first 2 episodes about Mercury... next 2 Gemini and then last 2 Apollo... quite magnificent and easily best TV about the space race

Morpheus 11:23 Sat Jul 20
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
No von Braun no Apollo 11, Kennedy believed in the guy.....weird accent though

gph 11:15 Sat Jul 20
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
Von Braun is one of the most famous Goddy scientists of relatively recent times.

Most Christians steer clear of using him as a poster boy because he was a Nazi criminal.

devonhammer 10:32 Sat Jul 20
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
Been some great programmes on all week about the moon landing

Channel 4 moon landing live on now.....lots of American news coverage I hadn't seen before

mashed in maryland 10:08 Sat Jul 20
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Mike Oxsaw 9:52 Sat Jul 20

Quite. And there are probably apps you can download onto said device that can do in a user-friendly way tasks which used to be incredibly complicated and expensive and labour-intensive less than a decade ago.

Used to hear a lot that there was more technology in a Casio wristwatch than there was in the Pioneers, dunno how true that one is though.

zebthecat 10:08 Sat Jul 20
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
Quite, they would have to sent rockets the moon anyway as anyone who could was tracking their progress and sent transmissions back to earth and that is just for starters.
The Russians kind of had a go with a couple of their Zond missions by broadcasting telemetry readings read in Russian but it didn't fool the Brits at Jodrell bank partly because they stopped abruptly on one them when the cabin depressurised (killing the menagerie on board) and the vehicle came hurtling back from the moon silently and crashed back to earth.

Morpheus 9:56 Sat Jul 20
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The Apollo 11 mission was so incredible that I can see why some think it was faked, still I think it would have taken more effort to fake it than it would be to make it happen

Mike Oxsaw 9:52 Sat Jul 20
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
People doubt the moon landings but quite happily talk into with a small bit of glass and plastic in the unquestionable belief that they're having a conversation with a person who could be half a world away.

Far Cough 9:49 Sat Jul 20
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
For complexity, I would put the Saturn V / Apollo program above the Manhattan Project.

cholo 9:42 Sat Jul 20
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
mashed in maryland wrote...

Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
I think what FC/CM/GO are on about is another reason some are so sceptical; just how complex a task it all was.



Argument from incredulity fallacy.

Northern Sold 9:39 Sat Jul 20
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
mashed in maryland 8:41 Sat Jul 20
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
I think what FC/CM/GO are on about is another reason some are so sceptical; just how complex a task it all was.

Even with (or perhaps because of) our modern technology the maths is bloody difficult to comprehend. It wasn't just a case of pointing a rocket at the moon and firing the cunt upwards.




From JFK's we go to the moon speech to actually landing on the moon it took 7 years... in that time you had the Gemini space prog (in which NASA got spaceships to successfully dock) there was 14 launches... 2 unsuccessful.... then Apollo... in which there was 4 launches before Apollo 11 successfully landed... so 7 years... and 18 launches before they got what NASA needed to put man on the moon..... faked?? Yeah right ho...

El Scorchio 9:39 Sat Jul 20
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
Fabulous film, Apollo 11. Go to the cinema and see it if you have the chance.

martinbritt_63 9:08 Sat Jul 20
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
And all accomplished with a computer capacity/capability less than that of today's average smartphone.....

mashed in maryland 8:49 Sat Jul 20
Re: Apollo 11 moon landing anniversary
Or oil and coltan

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